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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 08.06.2021 - 20:52   -  
We only scratch the surface I think. There we be many issues that we have not thought of.

There seems to be some support for the project, but enough? I don't know. I had hoped that Gunter might consider some of the admin side, but maybe he does not want to. Certainly he seemed to be the 'one' when it came to installation problems.

The consensus seems to be that the compiler is at the heart of the issue, but I think there is far more to it than that, as Harry's questions illustrate.

Perhaps we should trial it, to see if the people who have expressed support can deliver, and to see what problems we really find.

Assuming it is me who modifies the compiler....

First we would need to decide the process:

1. Rolf releases the compiler sources to me.
2. I enhance the compiler in some way.
3. Some person or persons peer test. Who? I think there are many here who could, but they would need to volunteer.
4. Then what? I cannot return the resultant compiler to Rolf - that would seem to defeat the object. So to whom?
4. That person or persons arrange release of update

Any thoughts?
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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 09.06.2021 - 13:41   -  
Guten Tag,
ich wäre grundsätzlich bereit zu helfen, wenn es gewünscht ist, allein schon weil ich AVRco gerne benutze. Sofern das Projekt dann wieder kommerziell ist, habe ich auch damit kein Problem, schon damit es weiter geht.
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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 10.06.2021 - 09:28   -  
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Mal noch eine andere Frage: Man hat sich ja jetzt an die Bedienung des Proggers aus der IDE raus gewöhnt ..... gibts dann noch Progger zu kaufen oder wird das auch eingestellt?

Gruss
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Hallo Harry,

also jeden Programmer kannst Du einfach aus eigentlich jeder IDE aufrufen auch den von ATMEL/Microchip. Wenn Du diesen aus der AVRco IDE aufrufen willst, kann man das über die UserTools einbinden. Oder über eine kleine EXE-Datei, da gibt es genug wege.

Ich habe mir den Programmer noch nicht genau angeschaut. Aber evtl. könnte ich diese auf einen unserer Bestückungsautomaten laufen lassen. Und rolf verkauft diese weiter oder wir übernehmen gegen eine Lizenz den Vertrieb. Aber da gibt es auch viele andere Firmen die sowas sehr sehr gut machen, inkl. Tests und Zusammenbau. Ein guter Partner ist für sowas die Firma VISATRONIC GmbH in Mainhausen.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 10.06.2021 - 20:59   -  
@Harry,
die Programmer sind unabhängig vom AVRco System!
Diese werden seit ca. 2 Jahren zum grössten Teil von
meiner Tochter Petra gemacht. Und diese werden auch weiterhin gefertigt.

@all
my intention is to release the AVRco into public domain.
There will be only the Profi version without any Dongle etc.

@Merlin
I totally agree with you.
I will send you the complete AVRco sources. Then you should/must
be the supervisor/admin of the system. I know this will be a heavy
duty job at least at the beginning.

At first you get admin rights to the forum. Then also access to the
homepage for up/downloads.
As I said one person must have the control over all parts. Any other
makes no sense to me.

Maybe Gunter can do the updates/uploads. He has some experiences
with this tool.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 10.06.2021 - 22:59   -  
@Rolf

You will need to send me details/make me admin. We will try as an experiment.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 12.06.2021 - 19:17   -  
Hallo @all,

ich bin natürlich weiterhin für den AVRco da. Soweit es meine Zeit erlaubt.
Mit Rolf und Merlin bin ich per PM In Kontakt. Ich kenne die Installer Software
und könnte auch Updates generieren und hochladen. Natürlich steckt auch hier
der Teufel im Detail und es ist mühsam bis man so ein System mal aufgesetzt und
funktionsfähig hat.
Ein weiteres Problem sind die unumgänglichen Kosten: die Domain, der FTP
Download Server, das Forum Hosting, die Homepage usw.

Wenn sich was Entscheidendes tut, gibt es hier Bescheid

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 12.06.2021 - 19:55   -  
Hallo Günter,
was für Kosten ? // FTP? Server? Webspace ? Forum ?

Also ich habe einen eigenen Root Server mit einer festen IP
und 5 Domain Namen und Flat am laufen und zahle
gerade mal 10 Euro im Monat mit 200GB Platte


Würde ja gerne mal wissen was ihr zahlt.
Seit bestimmt bei Hetzer oder wie der heißt.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 12.06.2021 - 20:30   -  
K.A.
Ich weiß, das Rolf einen Wartungsvertrag mit einem externen
Dienstleister hat. Wg. den Programmern wird er den Shop aber
in nächster Zeit sicher nächster Zeit sicher selber noch betreiben.
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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 12.06.2021 - 21:20   -  
Rolf has sent me sources. Unfortunately when I try to open AVRCo project there are some components required which I do not have and do not appear to be in the files sent to me.

@Rolf, could you please send sources for additional components

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 13.06.2021 - 20:38   -  
@all,
the server/homepage will be no problem.
Our Homepage is hosted at the server of my son and will further located there.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 23.06.2021 - 22:03   -  
@All

I am working on the AppWizzard.

Good news and bad news.

Bad news is the wizzard uses components written in Delphi 7 that are hard to update.

Good new is I have my own equivalent components or can replace by standard ones.

Bad news is that I do not have a working (or semi working) version of the wizzard that I can use to see where compnents should be placed.

Does any one have an old, working version of the wizzard that the can give me screen shots of the 16 pages so I can correctly place the new components?

Or send me the wizzard itself?

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 24.06.2021 - 02:15   -  
Hi Merlin,
If you need older AVRco înstall files:
I have several DVDs with a lot of AVRinstall and AVRupdate files.
Let me know if you need older installations !

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 24.06.2021 - 08:31   -  
Thanks Gunter.

I'll be in touch via pm.

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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 27.06.2021 - 10:10   -  
I have been working on the AppWizzard.

I have had to make major changes so this is very much an alpha release. On the other hand the current version doesn't work so you lose nothing by overwriting with the attached version. (Unless, of course, you have a working version, in which case save it so you can restore it if you need to).

I am bound to have made a number of mistake so all feedback will be very much appreciated.

Major differences are:

1. You can actually get past the first page.
2. There is no longer a limit on the number of devices supported.
3. Visually there are many changes. This is (mainly) because the original version depended heavily on Thales components which are no longer supported. I will, however, be making further changes to make the app less cluttered.

So good luck to all.
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Subject: Re: AVRco Service  -  Posted: 27.06.2021 - 13:49   -  
My antivirus (Windows Defender) detected a trojan in the archive.. Could be a false positive, but who knows.

Virustotal only found one in 2 of 69 scanners. So seems to be a false positive.
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